INTERNATIONALER Pressethread zu den Ausschreitungen in Istanbul

[bigmac1971]

jaaa, wir sind alles hässliche schweizer...

Ja, aber wir sind an der WM dabei!!

[mimpfeli]

Türkischi Präss


Ich ka nümm....Wältklass!! Ganz ganz grosses Kino.....

[Basic]

Star: "Es sollte nicht sein. Wir konnten die letzte Hürde auf dem Weg zur WM nicht nehmen. Dafür haben es die hässlichen Schweizer geschafft, nach Deutschland zu fahren. Sie haben wieder provoziert und für Rangeleien gesorgt."

immerhin haben unsere mütter keine schnäuze...

[Diggi_Eier]

T&#220]hässlichen[/B] Schweizer geschafft, nach Deutschland zu fahren. Sie haben wieder provoziert und für Rangeleien gesorgt."


Quelle: http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0, ... 60,00.html

Hey, unseri Fraue hän keini Schnäuz. Isch unser Team hässlich? Frauen hervorgetretten!
Bim Beni kan-y das jo no vrstoh... aber wenn ich sone Hakan Sükür aaluegt, wär sogar dä e H&M-Model.
Edith: Basic het grad s'glyyche dänggt

[ilFenomeno]

FIFA launch inquiry into Turkey-Swiss violence

(repeats with full name in 10th para)

By Annika Breidthardt

ZURICH, Nov 17 (Reuters) - FIFA president Sepp Blatter condemned violence at the end of Turkey's World Cup playoff against Switzerland as "trampling fair play underfoot" and announced an investigation by world soccer's ruling body.

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"I can tell you this, not as a Swiss but as the president of FIFA, that we will act here and we will act tough," Blatter told a news conference on Thursday.

"In the past few days, fair play has been trampled under foot, not just on the pitch but also outside. That hurts."

Switzerland, 2-0 up from the first leg, reached the World Cup finals in Germany next year on away goals despite Turkey winning the second leg 4-2 in Istanbul on Wednesday.

The Swiss players left the pitch under a hail of objects thrown by the Turkish crowd. Players from both sides clashed as they ran off the field.

The punishment after the inquiry could range from a warning to the suspension of any football association found at fault. The investigation must be finished by December 9, the day of the draw for the 2006 World Cup finals, Blatter said.

Switzerland defender Stephane Grichting needed hospital treatment after being kicked in the stomach and had a catheter inserted. He will be out injured for up to 10 days.

"It (the inquiry) will show whether we will investigate against Switzerland, too," Blatter said.

"At the moment we're just questioning and we're questioning both sides because, of course, the Swiss want to justify themselves after what has happened."

Turkish Football Federation deputy chairman Sekip Mosturoglu told CNN Turk that he was disappointed by Blatter's comments.

"The statements by FIFA President Blatter were extremely unfortunate. It is dangerous and wrong for Blatter to make a statement without having seen the reports and data," he said.

"I find it unfortunate that he made a totally one-sided statement without waiting for (statements from the responsible bodies)."

Mosturoglu said some security personnel had to go to hospital after the match: "Presumably our players didn't beat up their own security personnel."

"HOPPING MAD"

Turkey, surprise semi-finalists at the 2002 World Cup, had two fines for crowd disturbances plus two warnings during their World Cup qualifying campaign, FIFA officials said.

On arrival at Istanbul airport the Switzerland squad was kept waiting for two hours at passport control and baggage reclaim. Police struggled to hold back fans shouting abuse at the Swiss players and the team bus was pelted with eggs.

On Tuesday, Swiss foreign minister Micheline Calmy-Rey sent a letter of complaint to the Turkish government, calling the team's reception by Turkish fans "unacceptable behaviour".

The Turkish football federation has complained that Swiss fans jeered their national anthem in the Berne first leg and Turkish players had been abused after Saturday's match.

"The incidents in Switzerland put a nation on edge.... They exerted psychological pressure off the pitch," the Turkish Federation's Mosturoglu said.

Blatter said events in Berne will also be investigated.

"I am hopping mad about this," he told journalists. "What has happened is not worthy of football."

On Wednesday television pictures showed Swiss player Benjamin Huggel kicking out at Turkey's assistant coach Mehmet Ozdilek as he left the pitch.

Team spokesman Pierre Benoit said: "We haven't seen the pictures yet, so we're not making any statement.

"In principle, however, we believe Huggel was defending himself after he and Tranquillo Barnetta came under attack."

Blatter said FIFA had not yet received a report of what exactly happened after the match.

Switzerland midfielder Johann Lonfat was quoted by L'Equipe newspaper as saying that Turkish police were involved in violence in the tunnel.

"After the match, the players rushed into the tunnel to the changing rooms," Lonfat said. "There some Swiss players were beaten by Turkish players and by police who were supposed to provide security."

[dr poet]

jetzte wird gopferdammi plötzlich alles drüllt und d schwitzer sinn jetzte die böse..jaja dir schiss türke höret uff ummehüüle und bringet mol leischtig und stöhnt zu eurne fähler....!

[Orgetorix]

http://sport.ard.de/sp/komponente/event ... eiz_051116

[Gevatter Rhein]

die hässlichen Schweizer

Und weil wir so hässlich sind, kommen die Türken alle hierher. Klar.

[Trunkenbold]

Türkischi Präss


Ich ka nümm....Wältklass!! Ganz ganz grosses Kino.....

Blick, Bild, Kronenzeitung und all die englischen "Gazetten" (Sun, Daily Mirror usw.) können einpacken! Endlich mal eine Presse die objektiv berichten kann.

Gruss
Ein hässlicher Schweizer

[Ruudie]

SWISS AND TURKS COULD BE BANNED - BLATTER
By PA Sport staff
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has warned Turkey and Switzerland could face
suspension following the violent scenes which followed their World Cup
qualifying play-off in Istanbul.
The match, which saw Turkey win 4-2 on the night but eliminated on the away
goals rule after losing the first leg 2-0, ended in controversy with a fracas
between players from both sides in the tunnel.
At a press conference in Zurich today, Blatter described the incidents as
``trampling fair play underfoot'' and announced world football's governing body
would come down hard on the perpetrators.
``If you ask me what the sanctions can be, they can go from a warning to the
suspension of the federation,'' he said.
``I can tell you this, not as a Swiss, but as the president of FIFA that we
will act here and we will act tough.
``This was anti-fair play.''
However, Blatter - who is himself Swiss - angered Turkish Football Federation
vice-president Sekip Mosturoglu by adding: ``The Turks had the chance after the
(first-leg) defeat to act as a good host and show that revenge is not part of
football.''
Mosturoglu responded: ``It is an extremely unfortunate statement. This was not a one-sided event.''
Blatter later added on Sky Sports News: ``To say that I am a happy man today
would not be true.
``I am disappointed about the incidents that have happened in Istanbul,
especially the lack of respect shown by the Turkish football federation towards
the visiting team since Monday when they arrived there and also what happened
during the match, the hostility of the spectators and (incidents) at the end of
the match.
``Therefore the FIFA disciplinary committee will open an investigation to go
in depth in this matter. We will hear not only from our representatives there -
we had the security officer, match commissioner, referees inspector and the
referee - who was good, by the way - but then we will go to the Turkish and
Swiss federations and after that the committee will make a decision.
``I don't know what the decision will be but they have to do it very quickly
because we are close to the World Cup draw which is scheduled for December 9.''
Swiss midfielder Benjamin Huggel was seen to kick a member of the Turkish
coaching staff as he ran off the pitch before Turkey defender Alpay aimed a kick at Marco Streller.
Television footage then showed a melee breaking out in the tunnel involving
several players. Swiss defender Stephane Grichting was also reportedly
hospitalised after being kicked in the groin.

[DerZensor]

Hä ? Die Schweiz?

[Fire of Basle]

E wahre Erguss das Verschwörigstheater...dr Terim isch wohl d Jungfrau Maria höchscht persönlich ...sone bedauernswärts Gsindel! ! !

[pluto]

Ex http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ :



Wenn mich meine sehr bescheidenen Türkisch-Kenntnisse nicht täuschen, glaubt man am Bosporus an eine Verschwörung der Schweiz-Connection im internationalen Fussball (FIFA- und UEFA-Hauptsitz in der CH, FIFA-Generalsekretär ein Schweizer, ...).

[DerZensor]

War auch interessant was für Räubergeschichten mein türkischer Klassenkollege mir erzählte wer denn alles bei der Verschwörung dabei sei...

[Schwarzbueb]

jetzte wird gopferdammi plötzlich alles drüllt und d schwitzer sinn jetzte die böse..jaja dir schiss türke höret uff ummehüüle und bringet mol leischtig und stöhnt zu eurne fähler....!

Scho rächt, aber em Beni Huggel sini Aktion - no uff em Spielfäld - wird eus einiges choschte i dere Aaglägeheit...

[Rankhof]

fair wäre:
Huggel: 4 Spielsperren
Türkei: 4 Jahre Ausschluss
türkische Spieler: je nachdem, was sie getan haben (z.B. Alpay) auch nochmals Spielsperren (nach den 4 Jahren Ausschluss)

[crazychillbär]

Klar Verschwörung,darum pfeifft der Schiedsrichter ja auch einen Elfmeter gegen die Schweiz.

[Bender]

jetzte wird gopferdammi plötzlich alles drüllt und d schwitzer sinn jetzte die böse..jaja dir schiss türke höret uff ummehüüle und bringet mol leischtig und stöhnt zu eurne fähler....!

Hat mich nur gewundert, weshalb's so lange gedauert hat. Unsere lokalen, warmduschenden Gschpürsch'mi Humanisten werden sich sicher auch bald melden.

[Captain Sky]

Zum Thema internationales Medien-Echo:
Habe vor einer Stunde kurz die Nachrichten von ARD und ZDF geschaut. Dort wurde der ganze Vorfall nochmals behandelt. Den Kick von Huggel sah man auf beiden Sendern, den Kick gegen Behrami leider nicht. So stützen die beiden Sender leider die türkische Aussagen, dass Huggel begonnen hätte...

[Bender]

[quote="Captain Sky"]Zum Thema internationales Medien-Echo:
Habe vor einer Stunde kurz die Nachrichten von ARD und ZDF geschaut. Dort wurde der ganze Vorfall nochmals behandelt. Den Kick von Huggel sah man auf beiden Sendern, den Kick gegen Behrami leider nicht. So st&#252]

Die Türken haben halt eine stärkere Lobby als wir Schweizer. Würde mich nicht wundern, wenn das Spiel auf neutralem Boden wiederholt würde...

[team17]

Beni im Radio.... so in etwa: "Jo sie händ uns agriffe und ich ha mi den halt gwehrt, sind aber eifach zviel gsi"


Beni wird wohl nich um eine Strafe rum kommen. Auf dem Video sieht man genau dass er sich zwar immer nur "Rächt" aber eben, er hat sich halt gewehrt mit tätlichkeiten. Gibt sicher ein paar Spielsperren.

[Grock]

Ex http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ :



Wenn mich meine sehr bescheidenen Türkisch-Kenntnisse nicht täuschen, glaubt man am Bosporus an eine Verschwörung der Schweiz-Connection im internationalen Fussball (FIFA- und UEFA-Hauptsitz in der CH, FIFA-Generalsekretär ein Schweizer, ...).

Dä Verdacht hend d'Döners jo scho vor em Spiel in Bern brocht, (sind hend scho vorher e Usred gsuchet für dNiederlag).

Geili Sieche, die könnd eifach nid verliere, eifach nid.

[das Orakel]

Zum Thema internationales Medien-Echo:
Habe vor einer Stunde kurz die Nachrichten von ARD und ZDF geschaut. Dort wurde der ganze Vorfall nochmals behandelt. Den Kick von Huggel sah man auf beiden Sendern, den Kick gegen Behrami leider nicht. So stützen die beiden Sender leider die türkische Aussagen, dass Huggel begonnen hätte...

Die müssen ja auch auf einen Teil ihrer Zuseher Rücksicht nehmen.

[PastaBasta!]

Ein Ausschluss verursacht durch einen schweizer Fifa-Präsidenten hätte leider einen Beigeschmack, der nicht weg zu diskutieren wäre.

das ist ein fall für die FIFA Disziplinarkomission.

[Éder de Assis]

Pogrome = Ursprung bekannt, politisch,ideologisch gerechtfertigte
Ausschreitungen und Nötigungen bis hin zu Verfolgung von ganzen Völkergruppen um nicht zu sagen Rassen.

Ausschreitungen bei Fussballspielen = angezettelt von Hools, Mob,
Zusammenrottung und Saubannerzüge.

Das Wort Ausschreitung darauf bezogen erhält seit gestern eine neuartige,
traurige Dimension.

[crazychillbär]

War auch interessant was für Räubergeschichten mein türkischer Klassenkollege mir erzählte wer denn alles bei der Verschwörung dabei sei...

Ja das war bei mir auch so.Zu mir haben sie gesagt, dass die Türken nur so ausgeflippt sein, weil die schweizer Spieler die Türken während dem ganzen Spiel beleidigt und beschimpft haben.Klar die Bank stand ja auch direkt nebeneinander dann hoch der Laute Türkentraienr.Klar*

[Captain Sky]

Die Türken haben halt eine stärkere Lobby als wir Schweizer.

Könnte auch einfach Nachlässigkeit sein. Ich habe jetzt in jedem Fall einmal je ein Mail geschrieben...

[das Orakel]

Könnte auch einfach Nachlässigkeit sein. Ich habe jetzt in jedem Fall einmal je ein Mail geschrieben...

Habe ich auch schon gemacht.

[Captain Sky]

Habe ich auch schon gemacht.

Schön. Ich bin immer für kollektives Mailschreiben zu haben, solange ein gewisses Niveau nicht unterschritten wird versteht sich...

[Ruudie]

BLATTER COMMENTS ANGER TURKISH FA
ZURICH, November 17 (FIFA) - Bloomberg

The Turkish Football Federation have expressed
their dismay at comments made by FIFA president Sepp Blatter regarding the
violent scenes that marred Wednesday night's World Cup play-off against
Switzerland in Istanbul.
The match, which saw Turkey win 4-2 on the night but eliminated on the away
goals rule after losing the first leg 2-0, ended in controversy with a fracas
between players from both sides in the tunnel.
At a press conference in Zurich on Thursday, Swiss-born Blatter described the
incidents as ``trampling fair play underfoot'' and announced world football's
governing body would come down hard on the perpetrators.
``If you ask me what the sanctions can be, they can go from a warning to the
suspension of the federation,'' he said.
``I can tell you this, not as a Swiss, but as the president of FIFA that we
will act here and we will act tough.
``This was anti-fair play.''
However, Blatter angered Turkish Football Federation vice-president Sekip
Mosturoglu by adding: ``The Turks had the chance after the (first-leg) defeat to
act as a good host and show that revenge is not part of football.''
Mosturoglu responded: ``It is an extremely unfortunate statement. This was not
a one-sided event.
``It is very dangerous and wrong to talk about something without having the
reports on the incident,'' Mosturoglu told television station CNN Turk.
``As FIFA president, he should have waited for the explanations of the other
FIFA departments first, then make an announcement himself.
``When he makes such an announcement without waiting for the official reports
he lost his objectivity and became the supporter of one side.''
With Blatter declaring that FIFA would be launching a full investigation into
the incident, Mosturoglu revealed the TFF would be doing the same.
``We will gather and do whatever is needed as well. We have one security guy
in hospital as well. Do you think he was also beaten by the Turkish players?''
With regards to possible punishments, Mosturoglu believes it is unlikely that
Turkey will be excluded from any future tournaments
``I don't think they can penalise a nation by leaving them out of a
competition for some disciplinary problem in a single game. The (guilty) players
may also get a ban of four or five games.''
The flashpoint in Wednesday's game in Fenerbahce's Sukru Saracoglu stadium
came just after the final whistle.
Swiss midfielder Benjamin Huggel was seen to kick a member of the Turkish
coaching staff as he ran off the pitch before Turkey defender Alpay aimed a kick
at Marco Streller.
Television footage then showed a melee breaking out in the tunnel involving
several players. Swiss defender Stephane Grichting was also reportedly
hospitalised after being kicked in the groin.
Blatter said on Sky Sports News: ``To say that I am a happy man today would
not be true.
``I am disappointed about the incidents that have happened in Istanbul,
especially the lack of respect shown by the Turkish Football Federation towards
the visiting team since Monday when they arrived there and also what happened
during the match, the hostility of the spectators and (incidents) at the end of
the match.''
However, Mosturoglu insisted his nation shouldn't shoulder all of the blame.
Referring to the first leg in Bern, the TFF vice-president said: ``We were
seated with all the regular fans. We were disturbed by them throughout the first
half.
``We complained at half-time, but were told that they couldn't do a thing.
``We were disturbed at the hotel, on the way to and from the stadium. All
those things we lived through brought us tension.
``We played so many national games and nobody whistled our national theme.
They respected us even in Greece.
``But 32,000 people in Switzerland whistled our national anthem in a very well
organised way.''
Blatter hopes the FIFA disciplinary committee's investigation can be concluded
before the draw for the World Cup is made next month.
He said: ``We will hear not only from our representatives there (Istanbul) -
we had the security officer, match commissioner, referees inspector and the
referee - who was good, by the way - but then we will go to the Turkish and
Swiss Federations and after that the committee will make a decision.
``I don't know what the decision will be but they have to do it very quickly
because we are close to the World Cup draw which is scheduled for December 9.''